Brand | Brooks England |
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Color | Black |
Product Dimensions | 14"L x 9"W x 4"H |
Material | Leather |
Outer Material | Leather |
Pad Type | Foam Pad |
Bike Type | Mountain Bike |
Global Trade Identification Number | 00831273005719 |
Item Weight | 2.1 Pounds |
Manufacturer | Brooks England |
UPC | 831273005719 |
Item Package Dimensions L x W x H | 13.43 x 8.66 x 3.39 inches |
Package Weight | 1.1 Kilograms |
Item Dimensions LxWxH | 14 x 9 x 4 inches |
Brand Name | Brooks England |
Warranty Description | Two years from the date of purchase against defects in manufacture or materials |
Model Name | B17 |
Suggested Users | unisex-adult |
Number of Items | 1 |
Part Number | B211 A17202 |
Model Year | 2013 |
Style | B17 Special |
Included Components | B17 Special |
Size | One Size |
Sport Type | Cycling |
Hand Orientation | Ambidextrous |

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Brand | Brooks England |
Color | Black |
Product Dimensions | 14"L x 9"W x 4"H |
Material | Leather |
Outer Material | Leather |
About this item
- HANDMADE IN ENGLAND- Manufactured using 100 year old traditional techniques and the finest vegetable tanned leather.
- FLAGSHIP MODEL-The B17 has been on the market for over 100 years, featured in the Brooks catalog as early as 1898.
- COPPER RAILS-The B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork and matching hand hammered copper rivets.
- LONG DISTANCE MODEL- Preferred for long distance sports touring, trekking and mountain bike use.
- NATURAL VENTILATION- The pores of the vegetable tanned leather give the B17 natural ventilation, keeping you cool throughout your ride.
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Brooks England B17 Special | Iconic leather bike saddle with hand-hammered copper rivets to protect the durable, vegetable tanned leather.

Like all of our leather saddles, each beautiful B17 Special is handmade in our Smethwick, England factory with hand-hammered copper rivets to protect the durable, vegetable tanned leather.

Handcrafted Since 1866
FEATURES
- Hand-Hammered Copper Rivets
- Durable, 5mm thick, Vegetable Tanned Leather
- Hand skived lower flaps
- Chromed Rails and Frame Assembly Distinctive side stamp
- Iconic Brooks backplate
MATERIALS
- Vegetable tanned leather top
- Steel rail / copper plated
- Hand hammered copper rivets
IDEAL FOR
- Cycling in the city
- Travelling the globe
- Gravel & Bikepacking
- Road cycling

Hand-hammered rivets and special finishes characterise the B17 Special Saddle. Like all of our leather saddles, each beautiful B17 Special emerges by hand from our Smethwick, England factory where it has been carefully finished with hand-hammered copper rivets to add life to the saddle by protecting the durable vegetable tanned leather.
Leather | Durable, 5mm thick, Vegetable Tanned Leather |
Dimensions | L 275 x W 175 x H 65 |
Weight | 540 g |
Rails | Steel rail / copper plated |
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ASIN | B001AYMOAY |
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Customer Reviews |
4.7 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #81,175 in Sports & Outdoors (See Top 100 in Sports & Outdoors) #199 in Bike Saddles |
Date First Available | June 10, 2008 |
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Customers find the bicycle seat incredibly comfortable, particularly for long-distance rides, and appreciate its honey-tinted copper-riveted design that adds class to their bikes. The saddle is well-made with a durable leather and frame finish, and customers consider it worth the price. The leather quality receives mixed feedback, with one customer noting it becomes very supple with use, while another mentions it doesn't react well with water. The fit is also mixed, with several customers noting it's not terribly adjustable.
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Customers find the saddle comfortable, particularly for long-distance riding, with one customer noting it cushions the buttocks effectively during both short and extended rides.
"...although it's firmer than say Terry's gel saddle, it is way more comfortable yet because it has less give, I tend to put power down on the pedals..." Read more
"...There is no pain as there is no hard material under the seat, the leather supports the weight but is also flexible enough to adjust to, well, the..." Read more
"...all which I have experienced in the Past on other saddles and my Butt felt great. I must mention that there are other models of Brooks..." Read more
"This saddle is absolutely gorgeous and comfortable...." Read more
Customers find the saddle stunning, particularly appreciating its honey-tinted copper-riveted design, with one customer noting the masterful execution of the chamfer.
"...Now here's the Brooks. Rather clunky looking yet very aesthetically pleasing to the eye saddles...." Read more
"I absolutely love the look but more importantly, even on the first try, there is a very big comfort difference from a regular bike seat...." Read more
"...It looks like a sport saddle but retro. They are in my opinion a work of art and truly beautiful...." Read more
"This saddle is absolutely gorgeous and comfortable...." Read more
Customers love this saddle, describing it as the best bike seat ever that makes cycling more enjoyable, with one customer noting it improves with each ride.
"...'re tired, wow, that feeling of relaxing and just enjoying sitting and pedaling very joyfully!..." Read more
"...It brings joy and over time it will get even more comfortable...." Read more
"...world..ITs leather is tough and durable and yet gives me the best ride on long trips over 20 miles ...." Read more
"...Bottom line this is a really great saddle, definitely worth the money. I will always use Brooks saddles on any future bikes. A+" Read more
Customers find the bicycle seat well worth its price.
"...It is more valuable than the bike, lol." Read more
"...The quality is well worth the cost." Read more
"...Bottom line this is a really great saddle, definitely worth the money. I will always use Brooks saddles on any future bikes. A+" Read more
"...For me, the money was well worth it. My only real gripe is with the lack of fore/aft adjustment...." Read more
Customers praise the saddle's construction, noting its durable leather and frame finish, with one customer mentioning it lasts for years with proper maintenance.
"...they are....The French Ideal saddles are better made and better finished but their leather is super hard, I have one French saddle that I still cant..." Read more
"...It also has a shock-absorbing design that improves stability. It's comfortable for long rides, too. My rides range from 10 miles to 40 miles...." Read more
"...High quality saddles cost a lot of money, no matter what manufacturer makes it. For me, the money was well worth it...." Read more
"...He loves it- the look of it, the quality, etc. You can tell it is well made, even the packaging was done with care...." Read more
Customers have mixed opinions about the saddle's leather quality, with some praising its top while others report issues such as imperfections and water sensitivity.
"...the oil underneath saddle using a small brush, the leather quickly became very supple and flexible...." Read more
"...The water would dissapear for the first two days and was soaked up into the saddle leather...." Read more
"...is no pain as there is no hard material under the seat, the leather supports the weight but is also flexible enough to adjust to, well, the contours..." Read more
"...The leather is initially very dry and will soak up the first application of Proofide. Compare the darker treated area to the lighter dry area...." Read more
Customers have mixed opinions about the saddle's fit, with several noting it is not terribly adjustable.
"...under the seat, the leather supports the weight but is also flexible enough to adjust to, well, the contours of the rear end...." Read more
"...This is surprisingly little, and can make fitting the cockpit challenging and expensive...." Read more
"...I must say that my purpose for the B17 because of the large surface area is for my early Spring riding...." Read more
"...I've only been riding it for about a month, it's already beginning to conform to my shape and is quite comfortable...." Read more
Customers have mixed experiences with the saddle's durability, with one customer reporting it's the longest-lasting saddle they've used, while another mentions issues with the padding breaking down.
"...This old-style Brooks is smooth and comfortable. The leather will break in with time...." Read more
"...seem to conform perfectly to provide maximum comfort and to minimum weariness on everything from highly technical trail rides to long road rides." Read more
"...Leather stretched on ride and screw seemed to come out. I had not tried to adjust it on the ride." Read more
"...Brooks saddles are the most comfortable and longest lasting saddles. I have this saddle and other Brooks saddles on all of my bicycles." Read more
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- Reviewed in the United States on May 5, 2023Style: B17 SpecialColor: HoneyVerified PurchaseI took the plunge and bought this seat after much debate. I've been riding cycles almost my entire life starting at around 5 or 6 I can't recall. As I got older, I got more into competitive cycling and had more than two dozen different types of seats. Each and everyone takes time to break and some are better than others. Some start out pretty comfortable but after a long ride, it really hurts. Some less if I wear padded shorts plus another layer of padding. But they pretty much all hurt nevertheless. Now here's the Brooks. Rather clunky looking yet very aesthetically pleasing to the eye saddles.
First ride about 24 miles, trying to micro-adjust to my bike (Bike Friday Pocket Rocket) but keep sliding back and forth and I feel like I keep slipping forward. So I raise the nose just a bit but then it was too much. This isn't the saddle's fault but rather the seat post design. It feels rock hard even though I had applied the Proofhide overnight.
On the second ride, more micro adjustment and lowering the post an mm or two. Still felt like sliding forward a bit so I adjusted the tilt again. But, here's the weird part. The seat still hasn't been broken in and it still feels very hard but I don't feel pain. And my bottom is saying "Hey this is very comfortable, keep riding faster!" My single-gear Bike Friday now feels like a completely different bike.. only much better!
On my third ride, I noticed a couple of very important habits that I used to have during my years of cycling. First, I don't stand anymore when anticipating a bump or washboard on the road surface. Actually, I now just enjoy going over them and feeling those imperfections on the road (like vinyl vs. CD?). Also, that last few miles after a ride when you're tired, wow, that feeling of relaxing and just enjoying sitting and pedaling very joyfully!
If it's this good and I now only put less than 70+ miles, I can't wait for several hundred or a thousand!
Update:
So far, I have put over 200 miles on the new Brooks B17 Special saddle. I have applied Proofhide after each ride as well as put Obenauf's Leather Conditioner on the bottom of the saddle. One I noticed was that as soon as I applied the oil underneath saddle using a small brush, the leather quickly became very supple and flexible. On the most recent ride, I immediately noticed how comfortable saddle began to feel even at the beginning of the ride. This did not happen at least towards the end of the ride which was about 20 miles. I also started to notice a slight arch forming on the seat which wasn't there before when it was new (compare the 1st pict which is most recent vs. last picture when it was new). I will continue to do the Proofhide/Obenauf's oil treatment and start to scale back some what down to every other month from hearon.
Update (5/27):
To date, I have logged over 500 miles on the B17. Without the slightest doubt, as what others have said about this saddle is undeniably true. That is, the more miles you put on, the comfortable it gets. Now I ride fairly briskly on my single gear Bike Friday road bike. Because of this, I think it's breaking-in a lot faster. I already started to see darker spots on the area where my body makes the most contact during the ride. Also I noticed that the saddle, although it's firmer than say Terry's gel saddle, it is way more comfortable yet because it has less give, I tend to put power down on the pedals more efficiently and feels less tired after the run. I also have the B17 with the cutout in the middle which is comfortable, but I think the B17 Special would be my first choice if I had to buy a new one.
If you're on the fence about this saddle, don't, by far, this is the most comfortable saddle I've owned to date.
Update-7/4:
So far I must have put close to 800 miles on the B17 Special. As you can see from the last photo, saddle has begun to take some noticeable form according to physiques. Also notice the discoloration started to occur around the edges. However, the seat is now noticeably more comfortable. I can unanimously say, so far, I am loving this saddle, it makes my daily workout on the Bike Friday a shear heaven!
5.0 out of 5 starsI took the plunge and bought this seat after much debate. I've been riding cycles almost my entire life starting at around 5 or 6 I can't recall. As I got older, I got more into competitive cycling and had more than two dozen different types of seats. Each and everyone takes time to break and some are better than others. Some start out pretty comfortable but after a long ride, it really hurts. Some less if I wear padded shorts plus another layer of padding. But they pretty much all hurt nevertheless. Now here's the Brooks. Rather clunky looking yet very aesthetically pleasing to the eye saddles.Love the craftsmanship, and it's magic like Harry Potter, no pain!
Reviewed in the United States on May 5, 2023
First ride about 24 miles, trying to micro-adjust to my bike (Bike Friday Pocket Rocket) but keep sliding back and forth and I feel like I keep slipping forward. So I raise the nose just a bit but then it was too much. This isn't the saddle's fault but rather the seat post design. It feels rock hard even though I had applied the Proofhide overnight.
On the second ride, more micro adjustment and lowering the post an mm or two. Still felt like sliding forward a bit so I adjusted the tilt again. But, here's the weird part. The seat still hasn't been broken in and it still feels very hard but I don't feel pain. And my bottom is saying "Hey this is very comfortable, keep riding faster!" My single-gear Bike Friday now feels like a completely different bike.. only much better!
On my third ride, I noticed a couple of very important habits that I used to have during my years of cycling. First, I don't stand anymore when anticipating a bump or washboard on the road surface. Actually, I now just enjoy going over them and feeling those imperfections on the road (like vinyl vs. CD?). Also, that last few miles after a ride when you're tired, wow, that feeling of relaxing and just enjoying sitting and pedaling very joyfully!
If it's this good and I now only put less than 70+ miles, I can't wait for several hundred or a thousand!
Update:
So far, I have put over 200 miles on the new Brooks B17 Special saddle. I have applied Proofhide after each ride as well as put Obenauf's Leather Conditioner on the bottom of the saddle. One I noticed was that as soon as I applied the oil underneath saddle using a small brush, the leather quickly became very supple and flexible. On the most recent ride, I immediately noticed how comfortable saddle began to feel even at the beginning of the ride. This did not happen at least towards the end of the ride which was about 20 miles. I also started to notice a slight arch forming on the seat which wasn't there before when it was new (compare the 1st pict which is most recent vs. last picture when it was new). I will continue to do the Proofhide/Obenauf's oil treatment and start to scale back some what down to every other month from hearon.
Update (5/27):
To date, I have logged over 500 miles on the B17. Without the slightest doubt, as what others have said about this saddle is undeniably true. That is, the more miles you put on, the comfortable it gets. Now I ride fairly briskly on my single gear Bike Friday road bike. Because of this, I think it's breaking-in a lot faster. I already started to see darker spots on the area where my body makes the most contact during the ride. Also I noticed that the saddle, although it's firmer than say Terry's gel saddle, it is way more comfortable yet because it has less give, I tend to put power down on the pedals more efficiently and feels less tired after the run. I also have the B17 with the cutout in the middle which is comfortable, but I think the B17 Special would be my first choice if I had to buy a new one.
If you're on the fence about this saddle, don't, by far, this is the most comfortable saddle I've owned to date.
Update-7/4:
So far I must have put close to 800 miles on the B17 Special. As you can see from the last photo, saddle has begun to take some noticeable form according to physiques. Also notice the discoloration started to occur around the edges. However, the seat is now noticeably more comfortable. I can unanimously say, so far, I am loving this saddle, it makes my daily workout on the Bike Friday a shear heaven!
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- Reviewed in the United States on February 18, 2025Style: B17 SpecialColor: HoneyVerified PurchaseI absolutely love the look but more importantly, even on the first try, there is a very big comfort difference from a regular bike seat. It brings joy and over time it will get even more comfortable. There is no pain as there is no hard material under the seat, the leather supports the weight but is also flexible enough to adjust to, well, the contours of the rear end. It is more valuable than the bike, lol.
- Reviewed in the United States on July 4, 2014Style: B17 SpecialColor: BrownVerified PurchaseThis is one of Two Brooks Saddles that I purchased. The first one is a Swift Saddle by Brooks. The second was the B17.
The reason I purchased these saddles is due to the theory that they act like a hammock (leather suspended by a frame with no support directly under the leather) this is supposed to cushion your Butt on long or short rides. The reason this is so is because the leather flexes like a shock absorber. Not sure if the leather saddle molds to your Butt?
I must say that my purpose for the B17 because of the large surface area is for my early Spring riding. The saddle is larger and therefore will be more comfortable. So basically get rid of your huge Gel Seats because this will replace that and offer more style and comfort. The B17 is also smaller that those Gel Seats in general. Once your Butt gets used to the pressure on your Butt Bones you can move onto the more sport oriented Swift saddle. Well at least that is my plan.
If you have a real sport rode bike the B17 will look a little dorky! Honestly I like it and so does my Butt so I don't care. I need all the help I can get early in the season. Remember it is still smaller than those big Gel seats. The B17 in my opinion is a better alternative.
I mentioned the Swift saddle by Brooks. Well that is the Saddle I have been using now that my Butt is accustom to riding. It looks like a sport saddle but retro. They are in my opinion a work of art and truly beautiful.
Now you may ponder the thought of a Titanium frame Vs. Steel? Well the Titanium Saddles are at least $200.00 more and drop the weight by 1/2 pound. If you feel a half pound is worth an extra $200.00 then go for it. For me it is not.
How too decide if you want a B17 or a Swift? Well you can do what I did and purchase one of each but if you only want one saddle then here's how you decide.....
Basically if your handle Bars are lower than your seat/saddle then go with the Swift because it has no skirt and if your riding with low handle bars your in sport mode and the skirt of the B17 will rub your Thighs in that riding position. If your Handlebar position is equal too or higher than your saddle then go with the B17 or the Swift.
Breaking in your Saddle by Brooks????? That will be different for everyone. What I did is purchase the Proof hide conditioner. I rub it with my Fingers under the saddle and on top. Placed in Sun Light after it was absorbed I put another coat on top of saddle then went for a 40 mile ride. Came home put another coat on etc. I did this three times riding in between coats. Basically do not go by mileage put in the saddle, use Time it is better because will all ride at different speeds so basically boils down to time. Well I just finished a Five Hour ride this past Sunday and that basically did it. It is broken in. I must say that I experienced no Numbness at all which I have experienced in the Past on other saddles and my Butt felt great.
I must mention that there are other models of Brooks Saddles B17, B15, Swift etc.
- Reviewed in the United States on May 5, 2024Style: B17 SpecialColor: HoneyVerified PurchaseThis saddle is absolutely gorgeous and comfortable. I bought this saddle for my casual BMX cruiser but I now wish I had one years ago when I road cycled far greater distances. The quality is well worth the cost.
- Reviewed in the United States on August 24, 2020Style: B17 SpecialColor: BrownVerified PurchaseThis is without doubt one of the best saddles in the world..ITs leather is tough and durable and yet gives me the best ride on long trips over 20 miles . IT cannot be beat on rides of around 50 miles and more. This is the only saddle I would use on long races and rides. I have used many Brooks from the pro models with large copper rivets to some of the swallow shapes . B 17 and pro models are the best ..On some races I switch to a lighter saddle and they suffice but every time i get into my Brooks I notice how comfortable they are....The French Ideal saddles are better made and better finished but their leather is super hard, I have one French saddle that I still cant break in , In fact its breaking me. The Ideal saddle is better made and better finished but I can't use it..It does look good on my shelf. Go Brooks !
- Reviewed in the United States on September 6, 2024Style: B17 SpecialColor: HoneyVerified PurchaseIt's gorgeous. Smells wonderful. Looks great on the bike. Classic. And, with almost 200 miles on it now, I can say it has become very comfortable. I did use Brooks' Proofide® as Brooks instructed. Very happy, gonna be my saddle for the foreseeable future.
5.0 out of 5 starsIt's gorgeous. Smells wonderful. Looks great on the bike. Classic. And, with almost 200 miles on it now, I can say it has become very comfortable. I did use Brooks' Proofide® as Brooks instructed. Very happy, gonna be my saddle for the foreseeable future.Luxury Saddle, Comfortable, Stylish
Reviewed in the United States on September 6, 2024
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LuschmiReviewed in Germany on December 28, 2024
5.0 out of 5 stars Toller Ledersattel
Style: B17 SpecialColor: BlackVerified PurchaseHervorragende Qualität - eben Brooks
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P. S. AbreuReviewed in Spain on July 17, 2023
5.0 out of 5 stars Tradição, qualidade e conforto
Style: B17 Special TitaniumColor: BlackVerified PurchaseConfortável desde o primeiro dia e só pode ficar melhor, à medida que a pele suavizar e adaptar a forma ao meu corpo. O cheiro da pele (ainda mais com a aplicação de Proofide), excelente qualidade de construção e design, fazem deste um selim intemporal
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Romain P.Reviewed in France on February 4, 2020
5.0 out of 5 stars Magnifique selle très durable
Style: B17 SpecialColor: BlackVerified PurchaseUne belle selle qui garde ce look ancien.
Le cuir s'est fait à mon postérieur au bout de 300KM, disons qu'il faut faire un petit "rodage" avant de se sentir vraiment bien dessus.
Je l'utilise principalement en Vélo Voyage/Bikepacking (rodage effectué a ce moment là) et ensuite sur mon Vélo Taff ou je n'es plus eu besoin de porter de cuissard car le cuir s'était bien fait à mon fessier. Ce-ci n'est que mon avis personnelle celà ne s'applique pas pour tout le monde car nous avons tous des morphologies différentes.
Attention bien protéger la selle avec une housse de pluie pour ne pas que le cuir se déforme quand il pleut !
Pour ma part je suis amplement Satisfait de cette selle, elle va me rester à vie.
Romain P.Magnifique selle très durable
Reviewed in France on February 4, 2020
Le cuir s'est fait à mon postérieur au bout de 300KM, disons qu'il faut faire un petit "rodage" avant de se sentir vraiment bien dessus.
Je l'utilise principalement en Vélo Voyage/Bikepacking (rodage effectué a ce moment là) et ensuite sur mon Vélo Taff ou je n'es plus eu besoin de porter de cuissard car le cuir s'était bien fait à mon fessier. Ce-ci n'est que mon avis personnelle celà ne s'applique pas pour tout le monde car nous avons tous des morphologies différentes.
Attention bien protéger la selle avec une housse de pluie pour ne pas que le cuir se déforme quand il pleut !
Pour ma part je suis amplement Satisfait de cette selle, elle va me rester à vie.
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- RCReviewed in Canada on October 16, 2024
5.0 out of 5 stars Quality
Style: B17 SpecialColor: HoneyVerified PurchaseI’m very picky and the quality is amazing. Right out of the box the seat is comfortable and will get better overtime with conditioning and use.
It definitely gives me more power when I’m riding
First impressions highly recommended
RCQuality
Reviewed in Canada on October 16, 2024
It definitely gives me more power when I’m riding
First impressions highly recommended
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JaimeReviewed in Spain on May 27, 2015
5.0 out of 5 stars El mejor sillin. Acabado de lujo.
Style: B17 SpecialColor: BlackVerified PurchasePerfecto desde el primer día. Para mi, mucho mejor que el Fizik Ganma XM Aliante que tenía anteriormente. Yo peso 100 kilos y soy un tio grande, se adapta perfectamente. Al ser de piel, permite los cambios de postura y los movimientos en el sillin de forma suave y muy agradable. Trae hasta una funda para resguardarlo de la lluvia que no trae el B17 standar. Yo ya no cambio del Brooks B17 en ninguna de mis bicis.
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Product Summary: Brooks England B17 Special, Leather Bike Saddle with Hand-Hammered Copper Rivets
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One-time purchase: $153.00 10% Savings
List Price: $170.00
About this Item
- HANDMADE IN ENGLAND- Manufactured using 100 year old traditional techniques and the finest vegetable tanned leather.
- FLAGSHIP MODEL-The B17 has been on the market for over 100 years, featured in the Brooks catalog as early as 1898.
- COPPER RAILS-The B17 Special features copper plated steel metalwork and matching hand hammered copper rivets.
- LONG DISTANCE MODEL- Preferred for long distance sports touring, trekking and mountain bike use.
- NATURAL VENTILATION- The pores of the vegetable tanned leather give the B17 natural ventilation, keeping you cool throughout your ride.
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